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A Fresh Look At Salvation
Author: Jennifer Dent
Date: November 22, 2009, 12:26 am
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We have a post that discusses God's plan of Salvation
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Date: November 22, 2009, 12:26 am
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We have a post that discusses God's plan of Salvation
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happy reading.
Nice to meet all of you
Author: SoundJohn
Date: November 21, 2009, 4:55 pm
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Hey! Thanx for this beautiful place of the Inet!!
Date: November 21, 2009, 4:55 pm
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Hey! Thanx for this beautiful place of the Inet!!
A Fresh Look At Salvation
Author: Earth Salvation
Date: November 21, 2009, 4:12 pm
# of Replys: 1
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?
Doesn't that sound great? Well you can be, if you want. All you have to do is confess in your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. It's that simple.
SAVED FROM WHAT?
Saved from God's wrath. Yes, God is angry with us for disobeying His law. If one of us steals something, then we have laws to punish us. We have broken the law. God is the same way. If we break one of His laws he wants to punish us. We have all broken God's law many times. We are all guilty before God, therefore, we are all under His wrath and in need of Salvation.
GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION
That is what Jesus Christ is all about. He is God's plan to save us. Jesus Christ is a sacrifice to cover our sin: our disobedience to God's law, which we are all guilty of. He became a human sacrifice for our sin. Isn't that wonderful? He was a perfect man, he had no sin. He always kept the law of God. So he was a perfect sacrifice. He had no sin.
You may think that sounds kind of silly that Jesus was a sacrifice for our sin. Well, it may be, but that is how God works. It is God's way of thinking not ours. It is in accordance with his law not ours. In God's way of thinking without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. So that is what Jesus Christ was doing hanging up there on the cross: dying for your sins and mine. He was making a sacrifice for our sin, he gave His life for our life. It is we who are guilty of sin. It is we who should be put to death, but God wanted to save us so He had Jesus die in our place. He put our sin on Jesus and brought salvation for us.
So that is why we must accept Jesus as our Lord, he is the savior from our sin. When we confess in our mouth, "Jesus is Lord, "we are accepting him as Lord and Savior. This puts us in right standing with God. This is His way of saving us. Isn't that wonderful? God cares so much for us that He had his son die for us. He must love us very much.
HOW TO BE SAVED
So all you have to do, on your part, is simply confess in your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," just confess him in your mouth, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead: that's not so hard, you can do it, it's easy, and God loves it, it makes him happy.
CONCLUSION
So what are you waiting for? Confess in your mouth, "Jesus is Lord." This is calling upon the name of the Lord. It is written, "All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Don't delay. God is waiting for you. Give Him your heart, and He will not let you down.
Date: November 21, 2009, 4:12 pm
# of Replys: 1
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SAVED?
Doesn't that sound great? Well you can be, if you want. All you have to do is confess in your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. It's that simple.
SAVED FROM WHAT?
Saved from God's wrath. Yes, God is angry with us for disobeying His law. If one of us steals something, then we have laws to punish us. We have broken the law. God is the same way. If we break one of His laws he wants to punish us. We have all broken God's law many times. We are all guilty before God, therefore, we are all under His wrath and in need of Salvation.
GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION
That is what Jesus Christ is all about. He is God's plan to save us. Jesus Christ is a sacrifice to cover our sin: our disobedience to God's law, which we are all guilty of. He became a human sacrifice for our sin. Isn't that wonderful? He was a perfect man, he had no sin. He always kept the law of God. So he was a perfect sacrifice. He had no sin.
You may think that sounds kind of silly that Jesus was a sacrifice for our sin. Well, it may be, but that is how God works. It is God's way of thinking not ours. It is in accordance with his law not ours. In God's way of thinking without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. So that is what Jesus Christ was doing hanging up there on the cross: dying for your sins and mine. He was making a sacrifice for our sin, he gave His life for our life. It is we who are guilty of sin. It is we who should be put to death, but God wanted to save us so He had Jesus die in our place. He put our sin on Jesus and brought salvation for us.
So that is why we must accept Jesus as our Lord, he is the savior from our sin. When we confess in our mouth, "Jesus is Lord, "we are accepting him as Lord and Savior. This puts us in right standing with God. This is His way of saving us. Isn't that wonderful? God cares so much for us that He had his son die for us. He must love us very much.
HOW TO BE SAVED
So all you have to do, on your part, is simply confess in your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," just confess him in your mouth, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead: that's not so hard, you can do it, it's easy, and God loves it, it makes him happy.
CONCLUSION
So what are you waiting for? Confess in your mouth, "Jesus is Lord." This is calling upon the name of the Lord. It is written, "All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." Don't delay. God is waiting for you. Give Him your heart, and He will not let you down.
hard heart
Author: dcljoy
Date: November 20, 2009, 7:22 pm
# of Replys: 3
God generally governs His universe by the laws He has established .... this applies to human beings as well as to everything else.
It is so important to read the Bible as a whole, to learn about God, and the laws He has put in place for human beings to function at their optimum. A fundamental rule is that a person reaps what he/she sows.
The verse you quote is hard because it makes God seem unfair, like the petty kings and despots we know who do as they please. But from the rest of the Bible we can see that God is not like that.
The NT also helps, because in Jesus we see God more clearly than anywhere else, and Jesus repeats the rule of 'cause and effect' .... as in
This was said in the context of why some people responded to Jesus and why some did not .....
Then in Romans, Paul again explains :
God is sovereign, and He is also Just.
Date: November 20, 2009, 7:22 pm
# of Replys: 3
God generally governs His universe by the laws He has established .... this applies to human beings as well as to everything else.
It is so important to read the Bible as a whole, to learn about God, and the laws He has put in place for human beings to function at their optimum. A fundamental rule is that a person reaps what he/she sows.
The verse you quote is hard because it makes God seem unfair, like the petty kings and despots we know who do as they please. But from the rest of the Bible we can see that God is not like that.
The NT also helps, because in Jesus we see God more clearly than anywhere else, and Jesus repeats the rule of 'cause and effect' .... as in
This was said in the context of why some people responded to Jesus and why some did not .....
Then in Romans, Paul again explains :
God is sovereign, and He is also Just.
hard heart
Author: cw-nf
Date: November 20, 2009, 6:29 pm
# of Replys: 3
Just a thought only God knows his reasons for what he does, why people are unresponsive, so let's look at it.
God's mercy is under His will, the generation that came out of Egypt did not enter the Canaan-rest because of unbelief.
The compromises proposed by Pharaoh/world are those urged upon Christians today, invariably it ends in world-conformity.
There is another Gospel which Pharaoh used, "which is not another" but a perversion of the true Gospel of the Grace of God.
Against which we are warned. Exodus 9:11; Galations 1:6; the test of the Gospel is grace.
Romans 9:18 we are warned ---Pharaoh invariably denies the sufficiency of God alone, and he mingles his power with some kind of human merit. Exodus 7:11; So Aaron was the rod of life, the rod of the Priest.
As the serpents symbols of Satan, who had power of death, Rev 12:9; Hebrews 2:14; Hebrews 2:1-4
Self-righteousness: the futile efort of man to work out his own Salvation, a character which God can approve.
Rev 14:8; So we see the Idol/Beast worshipers announced as worthless by God, which proves, the purpose of God in LOVE, and the Purpose of God in judgment. Exodus 7:1
Hope is putting faith to work when doubting would be easier.
The one who draws nigh to God one step through doubting dim, God will advance a mile to him.
The Passover, type of Christ our Redeemer Exodus 12:1-28; The Lamb tested must be slain.
Date: November 20, 2009, 6:29 pm
# of Replys: 3
Just a thought only God knows his reasons for what he does, why people are unresponsive, so let's look at it.
God's mercy is under His will, the generation that came out of Egypt did not enter the Canaan-rest because of unbelief.
The compromises proposed by Pharaoh/world are those urged upon Christians today, invariably it ends in world-conformity.
There is another Gospel which Pharaoh used, "which is not another" but a perversion of the true Gospel of the Grace of God.
Against which we are warned. Exodus 9:11; Galations 1:6; the test of the Gospel is grace.
Romans 9:18 we are warned ---Pharaoh invariably denies the sufficiency of God alone, and he mingles his power with some kind of human merit. Exodus 7:11; So Aaron was the rod of life, the rod of the Priest.
As the serpents symbols of Satan, who had power of death, Rev 12:9; Hebrews 2:14; Hebrews 2:1-4
Self-righteousness: the futile efort of man to work out his own Salvation, a character which God can approve.
Rev 14:8; So we see the Idol/Beast worshipers announced as worthless by God, which proves, the purpose of God in LOVE, and the Purpose of God in judgment. Exodus 7:1
Hope is putting faith to work when doubting would be easier.
The one who draws nigh to God one step through doubting dim, God will advance a mile to him.
The Passover, type of Christ our Redeemer Exodus 12:1-28; The Lamb tested must be slain.
hard heart
Author: wsbvcarl
Date: November 20, 2009, 12:16 pm
# of Replys: 3
EXPLAIN EXDUS 9:12, THE KING'S HEART WAS HARDEN BY GOD?
Date: November 20, 2009, 12:16 pm
# of Replys: 3
EXPLAIN EXDUS 9:12, THE KING'S HEART WAS HARDEN BY GOD?
Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience
Author: Gideon
Date: November 20, 2009, 11:41 am
# of Replys: 0
Today a group of prominent Christian clergy, ministry leaders and scholars released the Manhattan Declaration, addressing the sanctity of life, traditional marriage and religious liberty.
"Christians are heirs of a 2,000-year tradition of proclaiming God’s word, seeking justice in our societies, resisting tyranny, and reaching out with compassion to the poor, oppressed and suffering.
"While fully acknowledging the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages, we claim the heritage of those Christians who defended innocent life by rescuing discarded babies from trash heaps in Roman cities and publicly denouncing the Empire’s sanctioning of infanticide. We remember with reverence those believers who sacrificed their lives by remaining in Roman cities to tend the sick and dying during the plagues, and who died bravely in the coliseums rather than deny their Lord."
Date: November 20, 2009, 11:41 am
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Today a group of prominent Christian clergy, ministry leaders and scholars released the Manhattan Declaration, addressing the sanctity of life, traditional marriage and religious liberty.
"Christians are heirs of a 2,000-year tradition of proclaiming God’s word, seeking justice in our societies, resisting tyranny, and reaching out with compassion to the poor, oppressed and suffering.
"While fully acknowledging the imperfections and shortcomings of Christian institutions and communities in all ages, we claim the heritage of those Christians who defended innocent life by rescuing discarded babies from trash heaps in Roman cities and publicly denouncing the Empire’s sanctioning of infanticide. We remember with reverence those believers who sacrificed their lives by remaining in Roman cities to tend the sick and dying during the plagues, and who died bravely in the coliseums rather than deny their Lord."
Tattoo
Author: Todd Charske
Date: November 20, 2009, 7:39 am
# of Replys: 23
My tattoo is a cross with wings and a crown of thorns as a halo. Under neath it says "He died so we may live" Check it out, click the link.
It's not what I would do but how does that not glorify God? Body is your temple ok sure and the Old Testament maybe a set of "rules" to follow. Although too many people in my opinion get the idea that Christ and God constrain us to rules instead of Free US! Christ is not the Great restrictor Christ sets us FREE! Free of Sin, Free of Guilt, the Abba Father, etc etc. When people start implementing all these rules on every follower then they are playing God and I’m pretty sure that the only true God does not take that lightly! Just my thoughts hope I do not offend anyone but I’m tired of listening to people that claim to follow Christ and then Act like they are God themselves. The whole plank in my eye vs splinter in yours etc should ring loud to some! I ask that Christians in general begin accepting people just like Christ accepts me, a ing sinner, and loves me despite my flaws! I pray this but only after I ask for forgiveness of my sins.
- Todd Charske
Date: November 20, 2009, 7:39 am
# of Replys: 23
My tattoo is a cross with wings and a crown of thorns as a halo. Under neath it says "He died so we may live" Check it out, click the link.
It's not what I would do but how does that not glorify God? Body is your temple ok sure and the Old Testament maybe a set of "rules" to follow. Although too many people in my opinion get the idea that Christ and God constrain us to rules instead of Free US! Christ is not the Great restrictor Christ sets us FREE! Free of Sin, Free of Guilt, the Abba Father, etc etc. When people start implementing all these rules on every follower then they are playing God and I’m pretty sure that the only true God does not take that lightly! Just my thoughts hope I do not offend anyone but I’m tired of listening to people that claim to follow Christ and then Act like they are God themselves. The whole plank in my eye vs splinter in yours etc should ring loud to some! I ask that Christians in general begin accepting people just like Christ accepts me, a ing sinner, and loves me despite my flaws! I pray this but only after I ask for forgiveness of my sins.
- Todd Charske
In the Spirit vs. In the Flesh
Author: pastorjohn
Date: November 19, 2009, 8:06 pm
# of Replys: 22
I would suggest that Proverbs and Song of Songs also be taught to our youth.
Perhaps, we will talk again about the insidious nature of legalism - which was a problem that both our Lord and Paul confronted regularly and forcefully.
It is always abut the heart - or as our Lord spoke - "the inside of the cup."
John
Date: November 19, 2009, 8:06 pm
# of Replys: 22
I would suggest that Proverbs and Song of Songs also be taught to our youth.
Perhaps, we will talk again about the insidious nature of legalism - which was a problem that both our Lord and Paul confronted regularly and forcefully.
It is always abut the heart - or as our Lord spoke - "the inside of the cup."
John
Christmas
Author: kylerhockey
Date: November 19, 2009, 5:21 pm
# of Replys: 0
Hello all,
I know it's a little early to start thinking about Christmas, but I just wanted to share a little about what I am doing. Recently I have become aware of the amount of people In the world who do not have clean drinking water. It works out to about 1.1 billion people, that's 1 in 6 people on earth. I feel that this number is unacceptable. Because of this I have decided to give up my Christmas in order to het back to the real reason Jesus came. By this I mean that I am no longer going to be receiving gifts, as well as cutting back on all the meaningless gifts that I give to people. Every year America spends $450 billion on Christmas, but get this: it is estimated that only $10 billion will solve the worlds clean water problem. Please, this holiday season consider giving to http://mycharitywater.org/givingupchristmas 100% of donations will go directly toward building wells in under developed countries. Thank you.
Date: November 19, 2009, 5:21 pm
# of Replys: 0
Hello all,
I know it's a little early to start thinking about Christmas, but I just wanted to share a little about what I am doing. Recently I have become aware of the amount of people In the world who do not have clean drinking water. It works out to about 1.1 billion people, that's 1 in 6 people on earth. I feel that this number is unacceptable. Because of this I have decided to give up my Christmas in order to het back to the real reason Jesus came. By this I mean that I am no longer going to be receiving gifts, as well as cutting back on all the meaningless gifts that I give to people. Every year America spends $450 billion on Christmas, but get this: it is estimated that only $10 billion will solve the worlds clean water problem. Please, this holiday season consider giving to http://mycharitywater.org/givingupchristmas 100% of donations will go directly toward building wells in under developed countries. Thank you.
Christian Nation
Author: henrywm
Date: November 19, 2009, 3:50 pm
# of Replys: 20
Our country was founded on Christian principles. Even founders like Jefferson who were not Christians nonetheless operated under many of the assumptions of the Christian worldview. The Christian influence was a key element in what distinguished the American Revolution from the intentionally secular French Revolution. Over the years we have to a large degree abandoned this foundation. It is no surprise that our country has the problems it is now facing. A return to the Gospel is the key to a true reformation of this country.
I would not, however, be in favor of mandating religious adherence because it would be futile. A government could never force real trust in Christ.
Date: November 19, 2009, 3:50 pm
# of Replys: 20
Our country was founded on Christian principles. Even founders like Jefferson who were not Christians nonetheless operated under many of the assumptions of the Christian worldview. The Christian influence was a key element in what distinguished the American Revolution from the intentionally secular French Revolution. Over the years we have to a large degree abandoned this foundation. It is no surprise that our country has the problems it is now facing. A return to the Gospel is the key to a true reformation of this country.
I would not, however, be in favor of mandating religious adherence because it would be futile. A government could never force real trust in Christ.
Christian Nation
Author: Surrey Garden
Date: November 19, 2009, 3:30 pm
# of Replys: 20
no i dont theink a nation can be called a christian nation. Christianity is a personal choice a reflexin of the heart. Even if you made it a law for everyone to go to church that would not make everyone a christia. Because chrisianity is not based on works there is no way someone can check up on someone to make sure they are a christian.
Date: November 19, 2009, 3:30 pm
# of Replys: 20
no i dont theink a nation can be called a christian nation. Christianity is a personal choice a reflexin of the heart. Even if you made it a law for everyone to go to church that would not make everyone a christia. Because chrisianity is not based on works there is no way someone can check up on someone to make sure they are a christian.
In the Spirit vs. In the Flesh
Author: Jimd
Date: November 18, 2009, 9:56 pm
# of Replys: 22
Legalism is certainly a problem, but I would not regard it as a major problem in the world I travel in. I live in the greater Seattle area, a very liberal environment where the only things not tolerated are SUV's, putting recyclable trash in the regular trash can and "religious intolerance" that seeks to call sin "sin".
But the topic here is Spirit vs Flesh. When we allow our natural appetites to rule us, we are being led by flesh. Maybe it is an extra slice of pizza, an extra half-hour in front of TV that causes us to oversleep out devotion time the next morning, or something sexual in nature.
Paul tells us in Romans 8:12-14
I don't think we are necessarily at odds, just looking at different aspects of the Christian life.
Regards.
Date: November 18, 2009, 9:56 pm
# of Replys: 22
Legalism is certainly a problem, but I would not regard it as a major problem in the world I travel in. I live in the greater Seattle area, a very liberal environment where the only things not tolerated are SUV's, putting recyclable trash in the regular trash can and "religious intolerance" that seeks to call sin "sin".
But the topic here is Spirit vs Flesh. When we allow our natural appetites to rule us, we are being led by flesh. Maybe it is an extra slice of pizza, an extra half-hour in front of TV that causes us to oversleep out devotion time the next morning, or something sexual in nature.
Paul tells us in Romans 8:12-14
I don't think we are necessarily at odds, just looking at different aspects of the Christian life.
Regards.
In the Spirit vs. In the Flesh
Author: pastorjohn
Date: November 18, 2009, 9:24 pm
# of Replys: 22
JimD.
Almost all good things may be corrupted by their misuse. I was not speaking of the exception, but the rule.
I am also warning of a different danger. We must not call good things evil because they may be misused.
I consider legalism fed by this type of false association to be a scourge of the church. Perhaps you are in a different environment than I am. but I hear sexual sin denounced far more often that I hear God's gift of sex accurately preached.
Holiness is both positive and negative. A rock may abstain from evil. Believers must also do right.
John
Date: November 18, 2009, 9:24 pm
# of Replys: 22
JimD.
Almost all good things may be corrupted by their misuse. I was not speaking of the exception, but the rule.
I am also warning of a different danger. We must not call good things evil because they may be misused.
I consider legalism fed by this type of false association to be a scourge of the church. Perhaps you are in a different environment than I am. but I hear sexual sin denounced far more often that I hear God's gift of sex accurately preached.
Holiness is both positive and negative. A rock may abstain from evil. Believers must also do right.
John
In the Spirit vs. In the Flesh
Author: Jimd
Date: November 18, 2009, 6:25 pm
# of Replys: 22
PJ, while this is generally true, it is not always true. Eating is natural, yet eating may become sinful (e.g., obesity, bulemia, anorexia). Sleep is natural, but may become sinful (e.g., laziness). The sexual drive is natural, but the sexual drive may also become sinful (e.g. lust, fornicaion, homosexuality) .
Our bodies are fallen and depraved. When we allow the natural desires of our body to rule our behavior rather than allowing our behavior to be ruled by the Spirit of God, we are walking in the flesh (presenting our members as weapons of unrighteousness as Paul says in this passage). And the result is sin.
Regards.
Date: November 18, 2009, 6:25 pm
# of Replys: 22
PJ, while this is generally true, it is not always true. Eating is natural, yet eating may become sinful (e.g., obesity, bulemia, anorexia). Sleep is natural, but may become sinful (e.g., laziness). The sexual drive is natural, but the sexual drive may also become sinful (e.g. lust, fornicaion, homosexuality) .
Our bodies are fallen and depraved. When we allow the natural desires of our body to rule our behavior rather than allowing our behavior to be ruled by the Spirit of God, we are walking in the flesh (presenting our members as weapons of unrighteousness as Paul says in this passage). And the result is sin.
Regards.
Sugerencias por este foro
Author: pabell003
Date: November 21, 2009, 6:40 am
# of Replys: 2
here is a great discussion man......great job.......keep it up man........and I think this kind of discussion's are good for human...........nice work.
Date: November 21, 2009, 6:40 am
# of Replys: 2
here is a great discussion man......great job.......keep it up man........and I think this kind of discussion's are good for human...........nice work.
The Future of Christianity
Author: dcljoy
Date: November 18, 2009, 5:49 pm
# of Replys: 25
Avid
what a great illustration! ..... and what a wonderful thought!
now when I see the tide receding even more I will rejoice!
joy
Dinah
Date: November 18, 2009, 5:49 pm
# of Replys: 25
Avid
what a great illustration! ..... and what a wonderful thought!
now when I see the tide receding even more I will rejoice!
joy
Dinah
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